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Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:35
#57260
bejelentés!!!Mindenki startra kész???
exmnbs1 2008. 05. 15. 12:35
Előzmény: #57253  Törölt felhasználó
#57259
Gazdy, nézz bele. Ebből nagyon sok minden kiderül
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:34
Előzmény: #57256  Törölt felhasználó
#57258
ha valaki tudná ki ez a pofa itt aki szétoffolja már az egész fórumot, röhögne egy jóÍzűt
a külseje sem semmi, a belsejét itt láthatjátok
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:34
Előzmény: #57255  Törölt felhasználó
#57257
Nem kell vele foglalkozni, akkor előbb-utóbb megunja.
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:32
Előzmény: #57255  Törölt felhasználó
#57256
inkább figyeld a történéseket kisöreg, de készíts magad mellé valami erős nyugtatót.
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:29
Előzmény: #57253  Törölt felhasználó
#57255
neked nincs semmi közöd a genesishez kispofám
meg a tőzsdéhez sem
nyervogsz itt minden nap, hogy 50-60 forintokat keress a ledumálásoddal

menj dolgozni parazita
exmnbs1 2008. 05. 15. 12:28
Előzmény: #57252  exmnbs1
#57254
ven O’Rourke – Deutsche Bank Securities

Good afternoon. A couple of questions. First, I want to make sure that I just understand the energy and environmental solutions operating loss on the (inaudible) increase quarter over quarter pretty substantially. How should we expect that to trend over the next couple quarters and what’s fundamentally driving that?

Michael R. Splinter

Yeah, I think most of it is growth in operating expenses. We had a little lighter revenue offsetting that. I think they’re going to see revenue pick up and absorb a lot of that expense. So again, we’re trending for break even pretty rapidly.

Steven O’Rourke – Deutsche Bank Securities

Are the costs rising substantially with the start ups that you have in progress now?

Michael R. Splinter

Oh, yeah. We’re supporting basically eight start ups all over the world and then building out just the normal capability to run a business.
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:26
Előzmény: #57252  exmnbs1
#57253
kérlek ex, ne kopizgasd már ezt, tegyél be egy linket és kész.
semmi köze a genesishez jelenleg.
exmnbs1 2008. 05. 15. 12:25
Előzmény: #57240  exmnbs1
#57252
Satya Kumar – Credit Suisse

Okay. That sounds good, Mike. If I could follow up on solar a little bit. One for Mike and one for George. When do you expect your customers to first ship GEN 8.5 panels from the get go and when do you expect that will happen with tandem.

And to George, there’s been some deterioration in the balance sheet metrics. The inventory levels are increasing to sort of the highest levels in five years and so are payables. How should we model that as we go forward as you ramp solar. And, also, if you could just remind us what your break even now is in solar and how the profitability will develop as you start recognizing solar revenues?

Michael R. Splinter

So to answer the first part of the question, we expect production panels in single junction coming off the line by mid-year, so we expect them to be selling in the second half of the year. In tandem junction we expect late in the year for panels to be coming off their lines so they’ll start selling production panels at the end of the year.

Satya Kumar – Credit Suisse

In select full panels or are these cut panels from the GEN 8.5 cells?

Michael R. Splinter

Well, the cell is whatever customers demand. As you may know, our line allows for three sizes of panels: quarter size, half size, full size. As we get into production we’ll see more and more, as our customers get into production you’ll see more and more of the full size panels just because as the infrastructure develops they’ll be less costly to install.

I had a question on solar relative to the timing of that cost per watt road map. If you look at one of the major peers out there, they’re going to be at $0.90 incremental cost per watt this summer. So if you’re saying that gigawatt scale fab is roughly, say, $0.80 if I take the kind of mid-range of your guidance that you had said before, what sort of timing do you think that number will be achieved by given that peers are going to be at $0.90 incrementally by this summer? Thanks.

Michael R. Splinter

So Tim, on the second question on the cost road map, the answer is as soon as we have a gigawatt factory up and running, one of our customers has a gigawatt factory up and running in large scale volume, which is going to take some years, it’s probably going to take a couple years to get it at very high volume. I really think specific, very precise cost numbers are hard to make at this time when we’re just first starting up initial factories. I think we’re going to learn an awful lot and as we do we can update with real numbers. Our numbers are theoretical certainly at this point. it isn’t that we haven’t analyzed them in detail. We have, our customers have. Our customers have confidence in them and have confidence in improving over what we’ve projected. But we gotta get into real production and move up the real learning curve and that’s what I think everybody in our company is so excited about. Now is the time to really get after that and do it for real.

George S. Davis

And Tim, I think you see with a lot of competitive estimates that particularly on the smaller form factors that it’s always about cost per watt, but you never get cost per watt installed and that’s a big factor.

What are lead times today? On the call, in the prepared remarks you mentioned that higher capacities are in progress. What are lead times now and what do you think they will be in about six month’s time?

Michael R. Splinter

Well, I mean, we’ve got a number of different solar products all of which have different lead times. On the crystal and silicon side it’s –

Jesse Pichel – Piper Jaffray

(Inaudible) in particular.

Michael R. Splinter

I think six to nine months on the outside and four to six months on certain products. So just depends on which products. And then obviously on the bigger tools for the sun fabs we have a little longer lead times.

Jesse Pichel – Piper Jaffray

And where would those six to nine months lead time on the first products go in another six months? Would you reduce that to three months or six months?

Michael R. Splinter

Yeah. I (inaudible) forecasting we certainly see it a road map to bring it down and I think that’s one of the advantages that both HCT and Baccini saw and joining with Applied is our ability to help them manage the ramp, bring their cycle plants down, all the things that we’ve done in numerous businesses.

What are lead times today? On the call, in the prepared remarks you mentioned that higher capacities are in progress. What are lead times now and what do you think they will be in about six month’s time?

Michael R. Splinter

Well, I mean, we’ve got a number of different solar products all of which have different lead times. On the crystal and silicon side it’s –

Jesse Pichel – Piper Jaffray

(Inaudible) in particular.

Michael R. Splinter

I think six to nine months on the outside and four to six months on certain products. So just depends on which products. And then obviously on the bigger tools for the sun fabs we have a little longer lead times.

Jesse Pichel – Piper Jaffray

And where would those six to nine months lead time on the first products go in another six months? Would you reduce that to three months or six months?

Michael R. Splinter

Yeah. I (inaudible) forecasting we certainly see it a road map to bring it down and I think that’s one of the advantages that both HCT and Baccini saw and joining with Applied is our ability to help them manage the ramp, bring their cycle plants down, all the things that we’ve done in numerous businesses.

Jesse Pichel – Piper Jaffray

That’s fair. And one more question if I could. Sharp recently announced a triple junction product using (inaudible). Do you see triple as a future upgrade in your road map similar to the way that your single junction customers are now upgrading to tandem?

Michael R. Splinter

Actually, I believe Sharp’s triple junction, Sharp has had a triple junction for a long time. They’ve used their own CVD equipment. They created a joint venture with Tokyo Electron to execute this. People are going to explore lots of things to improve the performance and efficiency, but really it depends whether adding that complexity results in reduced cost per watt. So there’s lots of things you can do to improve efficiency, but if they don’t reduce cost per watt they won’t get implemented in the production.
Steven O’Rourke – Deutsche Bank Securities

Good afternoon. A couple of questions. First, I want to make sure that I just understand the energy and environmental solutions operating loss on the (inaudible) increase quarter over quarter pretty substantially. How should we expect that to trend over the next couple quarters and what’s fundamentally driving that?

Michael R. Splinter

Yeah, I think most of it is growth in operating expenses. We had a little lighter revenue offsetting that. I think they’re going to see revenue pick up and absorb a lot of that expense. So again, we’re trending for break even pretty rapidly.

Steven O’Rourke – Deutsche Bank Securities

Are the costs rising substantially with the start ups that you have in progress now?

Michael R. Splinter

Oh, yeah. We’re supporting basically eight start ups all over the world and then building out just the normal capability to run a business.

Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:22
Előzmény: #57250  Törölt felhasználó
#57251
ettől még a papírnak vége van.
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:13
Előzmény: #57249  Törölt felhasználó
#57250
brezsnyev:

gusztustalan vagy én csak ennyit fűznék hozzá!
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:08
#57249
Mert hetek óta óriási a várakozás!!!
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:04
Előzmény: #57247  Törölt felhasználó
#57248
hetek óta egyetlen pluszos napja nem volt ennek a genganénak.
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:03
#57247
Persze hogy csuszunk le?de ÓRIÁSI a várakozás, egy ÓRIÁSI volumenű projektnél!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:03
Előzmény: #57245  Törölt felhasználó
#57246
pattanj le öreg, reggel te is szidtad a papírt...skizó vagy netán?döntsd el mit akarsz.
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 12:00
Előzmény: #57244  Törölt felhasználó
#57245
brezsnyev:

gusztustalan vagy én csak ennyit fűznék hozzá!
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 11:54
Előzmény: #57242  Törölt felhasználó
#57244
Ötlet az idegesítők ellen
Csináljatok egy nagy találkozót, egy klubbot, csak a klubtagokkal találjatok ki egy sajátos idegen nyelvet amin kommunikálhattok a fórumon és őrizzétek, védjétek a titkot
:-)
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 11:53
Előzmény: #57242  Törölt felhasználó
#57243
HOPPÁ KOI!
Nincs genesised, és itt kibicelsz?
Mondjuk tudtam ezt régen...
mit keresel akkor itt?
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 11:50
Előzmény: #57238  Törölt felhasználó
#57242
Igen, és a fájdalmat tettek követik.
Lehet hogy más a hibás de hirtelen felindulásból sajnos az emberek
sok mindenre képesek.
Lehet, hogy az ami neked most észerű, az másoknak akkor nem lesz az.
Én nem viaskodok veled.
Próbálóm felhívni a figyelmedet ,de nem veszed a lapot.
De tégy belátásod szerint.
Nincs Genesis-sem,OTP-ben utazok
Úgyhogy én itt ,be is fejeztem veled a beszélgetést.

Megyek is kereskedni.
Törölt felhasználó 2008. 05. 15. 11:49
Előzmény: #57240  exmnbs1
#57241
ez mire jó ex?

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